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July 24, 2018 at 8:20 am GMT

July 24, 2018 at 6:41 am GMT • 100 Words

@Seraphim

All this may be true, but even under the Habsburgs jews were not allowed to own property.
J.S Bromley, ed., The new Cambridge modern history, volume VI, The rise of Great Britain and Russia, 1688 – 1715/25’, 1970 Cambridge
Then there is the fact of exclusion from many occupations, thus the phenomenon that jews went for new occupations, such as photography.
As I wrote before, around 1100 jews were expelled from England, around 1500 from the Iberian pensinsula.
How jews perceived their situation:
André Schwartz-Bart, ‘Le Dernier des Justes’, 1959, 1980 Paris
Jakob Wassermann, ‘Die Juden von Zirndorf’, 1897 1999 München
Nothing about equal rights

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jsm says:

Absolutely, so long as said issue moves to Asia or Israel, and stays there.

anarchyst says:

July 24, 2018 at 2:21 pm GMT • 100 Words

Actually the figure for ALL camp deaths is approximately 731,000, recently validated by International Red Cross records. As the International Red Cross had access to all German camps, it would have been extremely difficult to hide evidence of extermination.
As I stated in my previous tome, why would Germany go through the expense of transporting people to the camps if the intent was extermination? Why waste the fuel for the trains as well as other logistical expenses. Why would “extermination camps” have theaters, swimming pools, and even brothels?
The jewish holocaust ™ is a fraud that can no longer be supported. Ursula Haverbeck and Monika Schaefer are but two of many revisionists who are doing hard time for attempting to expose the TRUTH about this minor event in human history.

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j2 says:

July 24, 2018 at 2:43 pm GMT • 200 Words

“Actually the figure for ALL camp deaths is approximately 731,000, recently validated by International Red Cross records.”

This is probably a fairly correct figure for the deaths in the camps in the West (all Europe apart of the Soviet Union as in 1940 and Romania). If you add the deaths in Romania (Romanian camps and transports 123,000), Yugoslavia (shootings 60,000) and the war and terror in Poland (say, 50,000) you get close to 1 million in the West, then there is the East, say 1.3 million from camps and shootings. Then you have the problem that 4.5 million disappeared. 1M can be explained that they went to the USA, maybe 0.5M can be explained that they were not born or went to Western Europe. You still have to assume there was almost a million more in the SU than told in 1948, which is not so clear. But otherwise your figures are fine. The question is of what happened in the SU of 1940.

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Hamlet's Ghost says:

July 24, 2018 at 3:50 pm GMT • 200 Words

@j2

A Polish officer who survived Soviet captivity in 1939 recounted how his camp based in the Kola peninsula (worse than Siberia during the winter) filled up with Polish Jews who fled east after October 1939. Almost all of them were communists who expected refuge from their Soviet brothers after escaping Hitler’s half of Poland. Instead they were accused of being Fascist spies and thrown into the camps with a 5 year sentence, often with the very clothes they fled east in. Most did not survive the fierce winter of 1939-40.

The number of Jews who disappeared into the Soviet Union is never spoken of, but it must have been a significant number. Stalin was certainly happy to let Hitler take the “credit” for those dead Jews, just like with the Polish officers at Katyn.

The only historian to tackle this question was Walter Sanning, but even he could only go so far with the dearth of reliable census information. In accounting terms, the missing Jews of Poland are a “plug” that always allows the number to hit the magic figure of 6 million.

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Rurik says:

July 24, 2018 at 4:35 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 5:04 pm GMT

By all means.

and while you’re at it, also encourage your son to be gender-fluid

and your wife to … well, explore the progressive ways of diversity to keep your marriage spicy.

I even found what looks like a photo of you and your fam

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Jeff Stryker says:

@Rurik

Jewish and Asian women are good for relationships because a few scraps of traditionalism clings to them.

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Svigor says:

July 24, 2018 at 5:23 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 5:26 pm GMT

I suppose getting you to fight for anything is out of the question, if you’re asking us about your kids’ mating preferences.

Obviously it’s a rhetorical question, so I’ll give you a rhetorical answer: remember not to support any environmental causes that might involve preservation of anything. That would make you such a hypocritical piece of shit that a singularity might open.

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Svigor says:

@Jeff Stryker

Maryland is a Catholic state, and by far the most wiggered-out, jungle-fevered dump I’ve ever seen.

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Svigor says:

July 24, 2018 at 5:32 pm GMT

@j2

“Solving” that problem with the holocaust narrative creates an even bigger problem. You can’t even convict one person of murder another in court today with just a missing person report, but I’m supposed to buy somebody doing it 4.5 million times?

A real investigator, with nothing but a missing person report in hand, will go out and find forensic evidence. You know, physical evidence? If he has 4.5 million missing person reports in hand, his job is presumably much easier, because he can look for huge caches of physical evidence.

There has been no effort to do this that I am aware of. No ground-penetrating radar, no nothing.

A demagogue, unlike an investigator, has no such burdens and need only cook up a nice conspiracy theory.

Jeff Stryker says:

July 24, 2018 at 5:57 pm GMT

those are probably not Italians or Jews so I’m guessing the vast majority are Irish.

July 24, 2018 at 6:01 pm GMT

@Hamlet's Ghost

The fact is well known, not what happened to them, or how many they were

Rurik says:

July 24, 2018 at 6:06 pm GMT • 200 Words

@Jeff Stryker

Hey, to each one’s own, man.

whatever floats your boat.

I myself have dabbled in all and sundry, and find no fault with any of the fairer members of any race. I adore all their exquisiteness, Jewish, Asian, and the rest. (with minor and rare exceptions ; )

but when I lament the fate of South Africa, as it descends into the abyss, and I’m responded to with snarky snide comments about ‘white racial purity’ or some such snot, I know my interlocutor is not participating in good faith.

Sometimes I’d like to see them swap places with a South African farmer’s family about to be tortured to death, so that they might understand that the war on Whites is very real indeed.

Snarky snots like to pretend otherwise, and hold up their ignorance as a badge of some kind of ‘virtue’.

It’ s not.

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July 24, 2018 at 6:08 pm GMT • 100 Words

Zionist cooperation with Eichmann for jews leaving Germany by the Donau Black Sea route:
Yitshaq Ben-Ami, ‘Years of wrath, Days of glory Memoirs from the Irgun’, New York, 1982
This ended when a ship with migrants sank in the Black Sea, some 400 dead.
What it was, torpedo or mine, has never been ascertained.
Britain in 1939 stopped jewish immigration to Palestine, but could not prevent nightly landings.

Jeff Stryker says:

July 24, 2018 at 6:34 pm GMT • 100 Words

@Rurik

WHITE FARMER

In Detroit it is the opposite. The urban Polish-Americans, who’ve always live in Detroit and whose property was not worth a rat’s turd, were trapped in the city. The Jews and middle-class whites moved to suburbs which even 40 miles away were safe and the Southerners-transplants anyhow-returned to the South.

The white farmer is a Boer and unlike the British South African he has no connection to the UK. Boers, like the Polish, had no links outside South Africa.

The setting is different but the end result is the same.

Art says:

July 24, 2018 at 6:44 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 6:46 pm GMT

On two separate occasions in the past month, participants abandoned Birthright in the middle of their tours, filming the moment they walked out. The rebels then headed for Palestinian areas to experience what they said was a more authentic and honest portrayal of the political situation in the country.

Hi Talha,

Great comment — things are coming apart for the Talmudic Zionists. Their 100% lock on the Jew mind is failing. They cannot attack these young Jews as “anti-Semites.” Truth will out!

The Achilles heel of the Big Jew Talmud types is Israel itself. Always shining the light on current Israeli behavior will defeat them. The great wall of “victimhood” is falling in the eyes of the world.

Think Peace — Art

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Wizard of Oz says:

I’ve done the environmental bit myself or with my money. Tens of thousands of trees planted and I confess that, while mostly native not all indigenous to the areas planted.

Wizard of Oz says:

July 24, 2018 at 6:59 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 7:31 pm GMT

I know nothing of validation of any total figure by the Red Cross
In true revisionist spirit let me ask an obvious question. Can you name the Red Cross people who visited Auschwicz and say when they were there? Those Red Cross records would have to show you that.

The “why would they” questions lack all sense of human reality. Imagine what might have occurred if orders had been simply given to soldiers in Antwerp and Budapest to go to each Jewish home, find the Jews there and kill them within the day.

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Talha says:

@Art

Hey Art,

I wish I could take credit, but the real credit goes to those young people that are seeing through the Zionist sham.

Exactly!

Peace.

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Jeff Stryker says:

July 24, 2018 at 7:58 pm GMT • 100 Words

As an Arab woman do you really approve of the thuggish behavior of (A few) Arab-Americans in Detroit who might pimp white women or otherwise commit crimes against Americans?

Or refugee crime in Sweden or somewhere.

No, of course not.

Why would the average Jewish person in the US really be that fond of what happens in Al Quds?

The reality is that after World War II the Europeans and Americans wanted the homeless and displaced Jews to go somewhere, anywhere, out of the way of the Western World. So they encouraged them to immigrate to Israel as way of sending them SOMEWHERE, ANYWHERE.

The same was true of Operation Magic Carpet from Yemen. Yemen wanted to be rid of Jews and Israel was willing to accept them.

anarchyst says:

July 24, 2018 at 8:09 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 8:25 pm GMT

The International Red Cross figures for the camps were hidden by the Soviets and released after the fall of the Soviet Union. There is no reason to dispute them. You can bet that any reports of atrocities within the camps would have been reported by the IRC. The Soviets hid the figures in order to demonize the Germans with their fake holocaust ™ claims. In fact, Russian troops were much more brutal than any German troops

anarchyst says:

Look it up for yourself. I’m not going to do your research for you. The actual documents are out there.

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annamaria says:

July 24, 2018 at 8:36 pm GMT • 200 Words

Comments on the Jewish State’s “altruistic” help for White Helmets and other fanatical jihadists: https://www.rt.com/news/434049-syrian-mufti-white-helmets/
“The evacuated members of the White Helmets are expected to be resettled in Canada, Germany, and some other countries. We’d like to ask why they are not fleeing to Syria, why they don’t want to return to the Syrian society? There’s only one answer – they are the force, which the West counted on to destroy the Syrian society.”
— “White helmets were supposed to be made up of locals from the cities and towns with no affiliation to any side…..So, why are they running away from their communities if they are regarded as heroes?”
— “Because the war is coming to an end, and all of them were about to be caught and persecuted for their multiple false flags and crimes against humanity. At least there should not be any more hoaxed chemical attacks in Syria any longer, and Assad would no longer be falsely blamed for crimes he did not commit.”
— “Yeah, those false flags have just been imported into an European city near you. I give it a maximum of 6 months before terrorist attacks again suddenly become regular headline news.”

Heros says:

July 24, 2018 at 9:05 pm GMT • 200 Words

July 24, 2018 at 9:26 pm GMT

Well said, my sentiments exactly. But it is even worse, because once you quibble, they will throw the talmud and the torah and the bible at you hoping somehow that will simply give up after years of wasted time, thousands of wasted dollars, and a sharply degraded life from having to deal with such shysters and their lawfare.

They are all simply jews, and Christians have to assume every word they ever said was a lie, since they all are to this day enforcing their lies on us, like holohoax, hate speech, “antisemitism”, 9/11, Eretz Israel, Talmud, etc.

Since jews have spent the last few centuries censoring the free speech of Christians, and since we now know that we can trust nothing they have ever said or written, then why should we waste our time trying to discern the truth from the sewage they spew and not simply flip the table and take away their freedom of speech?

iffen says:

July 24, 2018 at 9:39 pm GMT

that are seeing through the Zionist sham.

Sham? You think Zionism is a sham? Really?

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Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/state/maryland/

Do you mean “was founded as a Catholic state”?
Unless things have changed drastically since 2014?

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Talha says:

July 24, 2018 at 9:39 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 9:41 pm GMT

Yeah and supported by a bunch of supporting shams.

An atheist movement out of Europe to provide a homeland to gather a bunch of disparate and spread out Jews onto a holy land based on Biblical claims and history…

It’s as if a bunch of ex-Muslims apostates tried to revive the caliphate – you think I would take it seriously?

Peace.

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Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

He speaks, no doubt, of our erudite online friend and fellow commenter: https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=sam+shama

Them Guys says:

July 24, 2018 at 9:52 pm GMT • 300 Words

So by your warped logic, unless some unz forum poster can Name the actual Sailor man who hoisted the sail on the Mayflower ship…..Then it means no such ship set sail and no pilgrims ever landed in America or Plymouth rock…

How such obviously smart souls here can be so idiotic when ever the issue revolves around jews?

Same goes for German Reader, regardless How many links and quotes by them what should know, like grandson of Jacob shiff et al…Its still not quite enough proof….There just must be some wiggle room so he/they can refuse to accept facts about international jewry and all the problems that infernal infiltrating tribe of misfits and nation wreckers has ever caused or done.

Most all other issues and they’d remain silent….But mention the taboo jew and they are off to the races.

I guess even very smart folks can be brainwashed by the jews eh.

Most of these type folks sure would make good lib dem’s. Main requirement to be a dem lib is be unable and unwilling to ever admit when wrong.

Even if somehow you could get EVERY alive jew in entire world Today, to sign notarized witnessed by two others, statements, and also publicly Swear on a stack of Talmud’s, to the statement something like “YES! We entire world Jews ADMIT every fuckin thing jews have been accused of, of funding and inventing and doing and running and profiting by and from Russia Revolt of 1917, We worlds jews are guilty as charged…Period”

These naysayers would still remain in Deep Denial and Demand MORE PROOF!

Amazing.

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Wizard of Oz says:

July 24, 2018 at 9:54 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 10:19 pm GMT

I don’t want research. Just your quickly looking up the detail of facts you claim to be confident of. Now I infer that you have relied OP n some dodgy website that feeds your prejudices and you want others to believe, as you do, that the Red Cross was unable to say what it’s people had done and seen for several years in the 1940s but now relies entirely on documents held by the Soviet Union. BS.

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ploni almoni says:

@AnonFromTN

My grade school teacher taught me that someone who says Solzhenitsyn is “a third rate” writer and then drops names like Shalamov and Bulgakov is a phony.

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iffen says:

July 24, 2018 at 10:24 pm GMT

July 24, 2018 at 10:49 pm GMT

An atheist movement out of Europe to provide a homeland to gather a bunch of disparate and spread out Jews onto a holy land based on Biblical claims and history…

But that’s what is was and that is what they did. How is that a sham?

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Talha says:

July 24, 2018 at 11:05 pm GMT

Well OK – I guess if they want to buy what those guys were selling…

Seems like a snake oil operation to me, but whatever.

Peace.

utu says:

@ploni almoni

and sovok.

Art says:

July 24, 2018 at 11:09 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 11:12 pm GMT

Talha,

It appears that Netanyahu has blinked on a full-fledged attack on Gaza.

Clearly Israel’s image just cannot stand another Gaza massacre.

Think Peace – Art

p.s. These belligerent bad boys are catching the heat these days – Trump is correctly being castigated for his stupid all caps text attack on Iran.

Rurik says:

because murdering people and stealing their land based on a grotesquely perverted interpretation of the Bible..

is no more legitimate than cutting off people’s heads based on a grotesquely perverted interpretation of Islam?

(Sorry Talha, I couldn’t resist).

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anarchyst says:

July 24, 2018 at 11:19 pm GMT • 100 Words

I see the hasbara are being threatened by the TRUTH finally coming to light. Watch the hasbara scatter like cockroaches when exposed to the TRUTH. Of course you don’t want research as you know that your holohoax is going DOWN as more and more people realize the the holocaust ™ was the biggest hoax and scam ever inflicted on humanity. If I knew how to upload images on to Unz, I would post them here.

Art says:

July 24, 2018 at 11:45 pm GMT • 100 Words

July 24, 2018 at 11:55 pm GMT

Can you name the Red Cross people who visited Auschwitz and say when they were there?

Wiz,

How convenient to sidestep the questions of responsibility for the outcome of Talmudic and Elders of Zion thinking. Thinking that way has consequences.

The anti-human thinking in those screeds causes blowback. The JQ is alive once again.

Israeli actions are a megaphone – they broadcast the Talmud attitude for all to see.

Fact – Israel has destroyed the worlds sympathy for Jews.

Think peace – Do No Harm — Art

Seraphim says:

July 24, 2018 at 11:47 pm GMT • 400 Words

@j2

Between 1.5-2 million Jews residents of SU and annexed parts of Poland and Baltics after September ’39) have been evacuated from the western parts of SU beyond the Urals at the outbreak of the war.
Total Jewish population in Europe 1939: 6.5 million
Number of Jews claiming indemnity payments from West Germany for having suffered ‘physicalyl and psychologically’ under the Nazis: 3.5 million
Jews have praised this action which ‘saved them from the Holocaust’.
Not anymore:

“Germany to Compensate Jews Who Fled the Nazis in the Soviet Union. This is the first time the German government has recognized the suffering of those who fled for their lives during the Holocaust”@https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/1.5222525

“Germany has agreed to grant one-time compensation to Jews who fled the Nazi onslaught in the Soviet Union during World War II, even if they ended up in regions that Nazis did not conquer, the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany announced on Sunday.
Payment will go to Jewish victims of Nazism from the former Soviet Union who live in Israel, the United States, Germany and other Western countries. This is the first time the German government has recognized the suffering of those who fled for their lives.
“Jews who fled ahead of the advancing Nazis in order not to be murdered were nevertheless victimized beyond imagination,” Claims Conference chairman Julius Berman was quoted as saying. “This payment can never bring back what was lost, but it is an acknowledgment of what they endured during the war.”
Hardship Fund payments of 2,556 euros will be made starting January 1 to Jews who fled between June 22, 1941, and January 27, 1944, from parts of the Soviet Union that were up to 100 kilometers from the most easterly advance of the German army, even if they were not later occupied by the Nazis.
Among those eligible will be Jews who fled Moscow and Stalingrad (today Volgograd), as well as those who fled Leningrad (today St. Petersburg) between June 22, 1941, and September of that year, when German forces began their 900-day siege of the city.
More than 1 million Jews were murdered during the Nazi occupation of the former Soviet Union and entire Jewish communities were eradicated. Thousands of Jews who realized that coming under Nazi occupation was a virtual death sentence fled eastward to try to escape.
Roman Kent, the Claims Conference treasurer and a member of the team that negotiated the agreement, expressed satisfaction that Jews who fled were being recognized by Germany as victims of the Holocaust”.

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Talha says:

@Rurik

Dive on in – the water’s fine!

Peace.

Svigor says:

July 25, 2018 at 12:48 am GMT

July 25, 2018 at 12:52 am GMT

The place is a multicult hellhole, so obviously the native whites there are going to be more Catholic than the general population. Also, I was there in the early nineties.

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Prof Watson says:

You should not tell our secrets. No problem, the goys are so stupid. The Christian Evangelicals are the dumbest people on the planet. They are our “useful idiots”.

ploni almoni says:

July 25, 2018 at 12:53 am GMT • 100 Words

@jilles dykstra

Paul is an imaginary figure, like a TV spokesman for a company. The Letters were real (and span 200 years), but Paul was not. He started out as a revolutionary, and went through four different re-writings before he was given “Roman Citizenship” and sent off to Rome. The religious ideologues, like advertisers are always creating imaginary people to get their message across. Moses was also imaginary.

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Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:

July 25, 2018 at 1:07 am GMT • 100 Words

@Them Guys

Did you actually read what others wrote? Your Mayflower analogy is absurd. Is it not perfectly reasonable to hold those revisionists who insist that there would have had to be documents really proving the intentional Holocaust to the same standards when what appears to be a novel line of BS is dragged up and the believer hasn’t a clue what’s in the documentation he Hope’s is going to be conclusive. If he had ever looked at the documents he relies on he would have to be able to say that there were visits to Auschwicz by real people with names who then made reports.

As it is I regard it as a reasonable inference that the Soviet Union did appropriate some Red Cross records which did deal with some limited number of those mistreated by the Nazis – maybe 762,000. What would that prove?

Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

July 25, 2018 at 1:33 am GMT • 100 Words

July 25, 2018 at 2:44 am GMT

Explicit Prots are 52% of the population, and a significant portion both of them and of Catholics are probably black. But probably the most visibly religious are Catholic because religious Christians nowadays are Mormons (if counted Christian), Evangelicals, or Catholics, and, of these, Catholics have more of a historical presence, certainly in Maryland of all places.

Art says:

July 25, 2018 at 2:24 am GMT • 100 Words

Maryland may be Catholic – but the Jews own the politicians.

Congressman Steny Hoyer has a residence in his home district – Tel Aviv.

Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

Seraphim says:

July 25, 2018 at 2:27 am GMT • 600 Words

@jilles dykstra

Protection offered to Jews in the Middle Ages does not mean ‘equal rights’. This conception did not exist in the Middle Ages. As a matter of fact their status everywhere was that of ‘peregrini’, aliens, not of citizens. They were permitted to settle under precise conditions expressed in the various statutes emitted by the King (or the authorities of the land, city, etc and always revocable), but never as natives unless baptized, which always refused.
Jews in England were ‘wards of the King’ . This meant that Jews came under the direct jurisdiction and protection of the crown, a status which allowed them, for example, freedom of the king’s highways, exemption from tolls, the ability to hold land directly from the king, and physical protection in any of the vast network of royal castles built to assert Norman authority over the kingdom.
I quote from Wikipedia for convenience:
“Henry granted a charter to Rabbi Joseph, the chief Rabbi of London, and his followers. Under this charter, Jews were permitted to move about the country without paying tolls, to buy and sell, to sell their pledges after holding them a year and a day, to be tried by their peers, and to be sworn on the Torah rather than on a Christian Bible. Special weight was attributed to a Jew’s oath, which was valid against that of twelve Christians. The sixth clause of the charter was especially important: it granted to Jews the right to move wherever they wanted, as if they were the king’s own property (“sicut res propriæ nostræ”). As the king’s property, English Jews could be mortgaged whenever the monarch needed to raise revenue and could be taxed without the permission of Parliament, eventually becoming the main taxpaying population.
English Jews experienced a “golden age” of sorts under Henry II in the early 12th century due to huge economic expansion and increased demand for credit. Major Jewish fortunes were made in London, Oxford, Lincoln, Bristol, and Norwich…”

From the Les Estatutz de la Jeurie (Statutes of the Jewry) of King Edward I of 1275 which ‘placed a number of restrictions on Jews of England, most notably outlawing the practice of usury’:
“Privileges of the Jews”
‘And foreasmuch as it is the will and sufferance of Holy Church that they may live and be preserved, the King taketh them under his protection, and granted them his peace; and willeth that they be safely preserved and defended by his sheriffs and other bailiffs and by his liege men, and commandeth that none shall do them harm or damage or wrong in their bodies and their goods, movable or immovable, and they shall neither plead nor be impleade in any court nor be challenged or troubled in any court except in the court of the King whose bondsmen are; and that none shall owe obedience, or service or rent except to the King or his baillifs in his name unless it be for their dwelling which they now hold paying rent…”

So, the Kings were protecting the Jews. From the revolt of the ‘populace’ exceeded by Jewish usury, by the abuse of their privileges, by their refusal to sit at the table with their hosts, by their hostility towards the religion of their hosts, by their financial malversations.
The expulsion was rather a measure to protect them from greater harm.

AnonFromTN says:

@ploni almoni

That tells me all I need to know about your grade school teacher and his/her knowledge of Russian literature.

July 25, 2018 at 5:10 pm GMT

July 25, 2018 at 9:47 am GMT • 100 Words

@ploni almoni

How do we now know what was imaginary or not two thousand or more years ago ?
Archeology does not lie, therefore being an archeologist in Israel has become an hazardous occupation.
No biblical story has been confirmed, not even the existence of king David
Amy Dockser Marcus, ‘The view from Nebo, How archeology is rewriting the bible and reshaping the Middle East’, Boston, 2000
However, after the wars against the jews a triumph arch was built in Rome, this seems to implicate that the wars against the jews were seen as equal to the wars against the Gauls.
Having beaten the jews militarily, it does not seem improbable that Rome wanted to destroy the jewish belief by introducing a rival religion.
That this rival religion would backfire on the Roman empire certainly was not foreseen.

j2 says:

July 25, 2018 at 11:02 am GMT • 600 Words

@Seraphim

1. “Between 1.5-2 million Jews residents of SU and annexed parts of Poland and Baltics after September ’39) have been evacuated from the western parts of SU beyond the Urals at the outbreak of the war.
2. Total Jewish population in Europe 1939: 6.5 million
3. Number of Jews claiming indemnity payments from West Germany for having suffered ‘physicalyl and psychologically’ under the Nazis: 3.5 million”

I am not any special expert on this topic (the same with most topics), but I made my own calculations that you can find from my blog. BTW, they do not support the official story: just starting from officially accepted numbers and by doing ordinary addition and subtraction you can definitively prove that the death toll officially given to Auschwitz is far too high and that a substantial number survived the Operation Reinhard camps. This does not mean that the official numbers are correct, only that these conclusions follow even from those numbers. Now I go to your comment.

1. Yes, it is well-known and taken into calculations that 60-80% of the Jews on those areas escaped or were evacuated.

2. The figure 6.5M in 1939 is most probably wrong. The total Jewish population in Europe in 1939 is not known because the figures from former Russia areas are based only on a census in 1890ies and there was large scale immigration, a world war, creation of new states, communistic revolution and so on. We can be rather confident with the Western European figures, and Poland had a consensus in 1932, but to the east from that it is quite unknown. I am familiar with Walter S. Sannings book, but I do not accept everything there. I think we should take the Polish consensus of 1932 as OK, then not assume large emigration from Poland after that because it is not supported by death tolls (excluding the death camps) that are known. But, there is the SU of 1940. The figure given by American Jewish Congress is 2.8M. I think it is at most 1.8M, because I see the increase in the US Jewish population (this is claimed by Sanning, I verified it in my calculations but only got 1M this way). Then we may still drop the figure by max 0.5M, which may be reasonable (but lacks a proof) because many moved to Western Europe and with so many mostly young people emigrating, the birth rate must drop. After doing these, there is still some gap. It can be filled in many ways, for instance, by assuming that the death rates in Soviet camps were very high, or that the Jews in German camps died in the war (building roads and airports or working in military industry is not a healthy occupation in a war, you will be bombed). But I do not have a proof of these things.
So, assuming that the SU figures for 1939 are correct, the population was 8.9M. I do not believe in the SU figures and with good arguments say 7.9M, with weaker arguments I can accept 7.4M, but not lower. We disagree with 0.9M, about a million as I said.

3. The figure 3.5M asking for compensation seems correct. You had 0.6M in Western Europe not transported, 0.4M camp survivors, 1.5M escapees in the SU, and then 0.5M in Romania, and 0.25M coming to the DP camps after 1946, and 0.2M Polish Jews surviving, not caught by Nazis. That sums to
0.6+0.4+1.5+0.5+0.25+0.2=3.45M. Am I missing something? I mean, these figures are true and correct and they do give this figure you state, but there is still missing 0.9M that we may think died in the SU, but we do not know how they died.

I do not accept the official figures, but I also do not accept incorrect revisionist figures. Calculate your figures, see what they actually give and what arguments have a good proof and what are only suggestions. Suggestions may be correct, but they are not proven. Cannot be taken as proven.

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APilgrim says:

July 25, 2018 at 1:35 pm GMT • 100 Words

Background: Western Christian Churches continue to evaluate doctrine de novo. This process is sometimes evidentiary, such as new data from science &/or archaeology. Other times, the matter is ancient & doctrinal, such as the ‘Filioque Clause’. So, for example I, as a Lutheran, accept the Nicene Creed, both with (Western Church Version) and without (Eastern Church Version) the ‘Filioque Clause’.

Question: Is it fair & accurate to state that,

‘The Talmud was not written by Semites in general or by Hebrews in particular?’

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bjondo says:

@AnonFromTN

AnonFromBrooklyn?

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AnonFromTN says:

July 25, 2018 at 5:37 pm GMT • 100 Words

Never lived in Brooklyn. That place is for “Jewish” losers who pretended that they were “persecuted” to get free handouts from gullible US government. Currently from TN, but that’s irrelevant for the discussion at hand.

Relevant point is, I can read Russian (and Ukrainian, for that matter) in addition to English. I read Pushkin, Lermontov, Gogol, Turgenev, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Blok, Bulgakov, Sholokhov, Mandelstam, Pasternak, and many others including Solzhenitsyn in their original language, in sharp contrast to most people holding opinions about Solzhenitsyn based on hearsay or translations at best.

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bjondo says:

July 25, 2018 at 7:27 pm GMT • 100 Words

@AnonFromTN

Is difficult for me to argue point with you. I don’t know Russian language. I just relate what those I know who are Russian lang fluent say. Their opinion of Solz is high. Reason? Until now, never thought about asking why.

The only ones I know, yes, a limited survey, who regard Solz similar as you do, are Yid or die hard communists – Yid or not.

The Yid part always relevant, whether from Brooklyn, Tn or moon.

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, @utu

, @Rurik

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AnonFromTN says:

July 25, 2018 at 9:05 pm GMT • 300 Words

Have to disappoint: I am neither Yid nor communist. I strongly suspect KGB had a file on me when I was in the USSR, although in the 1980s, while collecting info just in case, KGB mostly pretended that everything is hanky-dory (you had to be really insistent to get persecuted for something political).

I read quite a few of things Solz wrote, and in my book the best one was “One day in the life of Ivan Denisovich”. However, Shalamov, who was in real GULAG camps and wrote very convincingly about them (Kolyma tales), ridiculed it as a fake. He should know, he was where normal prisoners were, whereas Solz spent his time exclusively in VIP camps. This made a lot of people think that he must have been a KGB informer.

BTW, Shalamov was not the only writer who despised Solz. Baklanov (who wrote pretty good war novels) held the same opinion, mostly because Solz claimed that he always wanted to get to the front. There was nothing easier at the time, so the fact that Solz actually moved farther and farther away from the front (where real bullets and shells fly) showed that he was lying through his teeth. That was not the only lie he told. In my book, his major sin is not the lack of serious talent (you are either born with it or you aren’t), but his lies and airs. He clearly tried to emulate Tolstoy’s War and Peace in his Red Wheel series, which to anyone familiar with Russian literature was as ridiculous as a gnat trying to emulate an elephant.

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utu says:

July 25, 2018 at 9:46 pm GMT • 300 Words

This is very simple. Many people who write here were beneficiaries of the Bolshevik system. They had family members who were the executioners. They will never accept Solzhenitsyn because he is the one who keeps pointing a finger at them:

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Wally says:

July 25, 2018 at 10:42 pm GMT • 300 Words

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

lengthy, see ‘more’

I challenge Wizard of Oz to actually show us the millions of alleged human remains that Jew claim still exist and that they allegedly know where they are.

As for Auschwitz:

- An “extermination camp” where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.
- An “extermination camp” where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the ‘evil’ Germans.
- An “extermination camp” where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.
- An “extermination camp” where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.
An “extermination camp” where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.
- An “extermination camp” where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.
- An “extermination camp” where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
see:
Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story

- An “extermination camp” where there are countless Jew “survivors”.
- An “extermination camp” where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

[MORE]

- Healthy Jews at Auschwitz ‘liberation’:

- Fat Jew at “death camp”:

For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

http://www.codoh.com

Rurik says:

July 25, 2018 at 10:55 pm GMT • 100 Words